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UPDATE 2/9/2013
ANY ONE that does not have SAVED copies of recently lost articles ON THEIR COMPUTERS please send me a message ASAP saying so; especially if you have the name of the article or link.
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Proof of deleted articles. You will not be able to find all of your articles on WAYBACK and not very likely on any of the cache's either!
I have decided to post this article that was written yesterday in response to a recent article that has been published that has misleading information. It is just another reason by the way why, citing articles that appear from “personal experience” is important. The reason I did not is because I personally went in and looked for information to supply to the community as help in finding lost articles for SEVERAL hours yesterday, especially for those who did not have copies. I found the effort useless, but very rewarding as to proof of how much damage the hosting company's neglect have hurt the owner and Expertscolumn members.
I did find one person’s deleted article. At any rate, the writer, it is obvious, did not go into the situation and go through the process to exact themselves as an expert on the subject matter, for if they did, they would have found out that it is not likely to find 100’s of one’s lost articles or any lost articles during the period of October 28, 2012 up to some of January/February 2013; maybe and that’s a big maybe, a few articles could be found in TOTAL, not of a profile. The screw up on the part of the company that caused this mess up, did such a bang up job that from what I have seen and know technically. At any rate, this is what my article had proposed and I am posting it as proof of how devastating the neglect on the part of a “professional hosting” company cause the deletion of the articles. I have supplied direct links, unlike a recent article on the subject of finding your articles.
ONE of TWO ORIGINAL MESSAGES NOW EDITED
I was reading someone’s articles on the lost data and lack of recovery of some articles of Expertscolumn members in February 2013. I personally feel for so many who suffered tremendous lost of work. Whether one had a copy or not, it is a tedious job to have to replace work through uploading in some cases a couple of hundred articles, from what I have heard for a few writers. One thing great thing is if one has a hard copy of a missing article, at least one can copy and past it into the editor’s box on EC and if a citation and reference is missing because it was added after one copied and now does not know how to retrieve it, I have pitched that authors who have suffered this plight, ADD to the bottom of the article, "RECENTLY PUBLISHED in 2012" or something to that effect, so as to not be cited about lack of citation or reference on these articles. Nevertheless, the mishap that has occurred for all NEWLY POSTED articles are still liable for proper citation. No exceptions.
I lost 27 articles with about 2/3 of them never to be retrieved for I do not have a hard copy of them. This is not normal for me to not have a hardcopy of a work, but I had just been so very busy trying to keep up with the many emails and moderating here after having to take off 4 weeks to attend to a winter biology course, that I had little time to write. Often what I did was on a whim, come up with an idea while I was on this site and in between studying, simply made a post before going back to the enormous emails and job to be done here at EC. 99% of the time, I did not even have time to check my own work, but never neglected cited them.
When I was reading megamatt09’s recent article on the subject of deleted articles, I suddenly remembered that I used an article archive to bust a plagiarizer for Google on one of my articles I wrote for a company, no longer in existence, in which a writer from Ireland copied one of the articles I wrote from that site and reposted it years later. (Yeah, get that.) At any rate, he was legally taken care of and lucky that I remembered about the archiving system.
Go to the following site, and for those who have lost their articles and do not have hard copies, you may be able to retrieve a few articles for self or friends. Nevertheless, the majority of work will not be found, I have personally gone to the site and found so far only 4 articles now and for myself, not one. The reason why I am posting this article now, is more for members to see for themselves that there is NO RECORD of their work. Here are the links. Good luck
WAYBACK OCTOBER- DECEMBER 2012 (notice December)
SAMPLE OF NO ACCESS TO ARCHIVE: articles dated December 2012
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This one is very easy but I think only applicable to those authors who are too "lazy" (lol - like me) to clean their browsers "history".
1. I am using firefox (as my main browser). And I'm sure other browsers do also have a "history" option on it.
2. When I click the "history" drop-down button and click "show all history", it will open-up the history in a new window where I can see all the sites I visited for the last 3 to 4 months (mine was up to November'12).
3. Then you can looked down all the links of your articles (as long as you had open them during the time period). And it does have a "views" option where you can sort all the websites you visited.
4. After knowing all the "missing links", then you can start finding them on the search engines (google, bing, yahoo, etc) "cache" files by following the other tips given by other members tips like Shelpeare...
Another great point for finding links!
I was waiting for the links to be published. And secondly, some of my articles are posted against the names of other authors. I hope the stats and the earnings get registered in my name.
I wrote an article that discusses how to prevent something like this in the future. I hope all writers are having some success retrieving their lost work. It should be linked as a similar work in the box below.
Another way to find your lost articles on EC including all the activities you have done on EC from the time you started writing for EC is to use "Let Me Google That For You". Type that phrase on any search engines. And when it opens start typing your EC (Username@ExpertsColumn) I used mine as (pruelpo@expertscolumn)and in seconds all the activities you have done on EC including of all your comments made for your article pages and other pages will all be displayed.
Very interesting! I tried it and it works well. Now we just need EC to fix the site. Yesterday I re-posted 3 of my over 60 articles lost and one is there as it should be but two were not registered by the counter and do not appear in my list of articles when one clicks on 1hopefulman but I can locate them through a Google search. Is anyone else having a similar problem?
One other thing about the Google Cache Method is that the more standard the name of your article is. For instance, if it is buried on the search engine, there is less of a chance for you to get it back. I have used Google Cache and I am right now about 8/20. The more unique the name or topic, the better chance you have of getting it back.
more good suggestion about locating articles
I lost 58 articles too and I have no hard copies for them but to find them on the net is not really hard for me because those articles were with my username "PRUELPO" as one of the Tags I used. When I typed Pruelpo on search engines all of the articles I published on the Internet with my username Pruelpo are displayed from the different publishing sites I am writing for with the same username. And before the crashed incident happened on this site all of the 58 articles were already published on my blog site. Yes. I might republish them back on ExpertsColumn. By the way, my daily views and earnings on this site are still awesome. Now my advise to each and everyone - do not ignore your username to be used as one of the tags for your articles - it can also help to detect who plagiarizes your work.
absolute wonderful advice! I'm glad for you. R. Turk is another writer to fair well now too, since he has the names and in some cases links of all his lost articles. Great lessons between just the two of you alone. Thanks
Yes Sharon. R. Turk has also applied that method. I have another suggestion to recover and to find those lost articles. If all the ExpertsColumn writers have used the share buttons on sharing their published articles outside EC like G+, FB and Twitter, stumbleupon and other bookmarking sites - just go to on those sites all what they shared on those sites using the share buttons at EC can be found. At twitter alone - all what I published on EC from the date I joined on this site up to the last article I published here are all available under my twitter username "MANOFTWIT" including those articles I myself deleted on EC and those articles that were published on this site but have been deleted by Admin for reasons that were spotted as duplicate contents were also available there. So now my additional advise writers should not hesitate to use those share buttons on sharing their stuff outside EC. They can be useful to find what is lost.
Yep. Another wise share. THanks. If I had been promoting my articles, I certainly would have found them at various places. But I haven't shared I don't think an article in over 6 months.. only the past few days have I used pingomatic.
So pretty much summing up: I have lost about 50 articles then... Never thought this would happen-- thought the servers on this website were safe enough that I did not have to, so I did not think to save them. I was wondering why I had lost over 200 views a day for the past week or so. I'll look for some of them on the Internet...
Thank Godness I not only have my articles on other sites, but I keep them on my hard drive as well.I don't know if reposting is totally allowed, but what is a writer to do!
Morning Sharon, thank you for the update. I will message you the title is the two articles I haven't been able to recover :-)
I am going to start uploading the articles I lost over the weekend and follow your advice regarding references where I hadn't saved them.
I was wondering if this would cause duplicate articles if they did manage to recover some of my previously published work?
Don't worry about it. If it is me to find it, I would delete the newer version for obvious reasons. Good luck... just make sure you copy it before you press publish.
Hi, I was so upset with what happened. But, I understand the situation. Thank you for updating us with these issues. Also, thanks for the link provided above. I recovered one of my articles.
Hi. I sent you 17 links to cached copies of lost articles last night that were all published on December 14th, 2012. I also found 10 cached copies of a friend's articles last night and today I posted another 11 to that same friend. I saw a few of PaulC488's lost articles as well. When I posted my article on this issue I never said that The Wayback Machine was the main tool to do this. I stated that it depends on whether Wayback archived the page in the first place. What I did state was that you can use Google Cache and Yahoo Cache to get back lost articles for a limited time until those sources update and cache the present blank pages. Those pages that I found I found quite easily. When some gave trouble in Google I found them in yahoo and when yahoo did not work I used Bing cache. I used Wayback to find which topics were published on a particular day inserting the expertscolumn.com/tracker link into the search box. In light of these 38 recovered articles I think people should be told that the case is not as hopeless as it appears to them now. These methods work if used well. But they will not work forever as the Cache will update. It was not accurate of you to say that I did not check my own information. I always do. I know what I am talking about. Do not say then that I only found 38. I had no intention of finding all 10,000. That is not for me to do. I was just showing that these methods can work and can work well but time is of essence. I have not explored all the possibilities of the Wayback Machine but it was a great starting point to find article titles by date. It is not perfect but when all these methods are used together they can do great stuff.
Yes. Shelpeare. Thank you, I did not get a chance to respond to you yet via PM. The community is thankful for your effort. True for some reason December 14th seems to be an interesting date for finding ANY article, not necessarily still all. I found quite a few on that date and on Wayback as a matter of fact. Yeah, it can be a bit technically and not likely, the person with an average technical skill would find 50 to 100's of their lost articles, if at all and in time. (But of course not, on the 10,000) I know that you know what you are doing. I have done some of what you did throughout ALL of the caches in hopes to report eventually ALL articles that were NOT saved by an author can be found. When you supplied the information however, it lent no description as to HOW to look the information up. It came off as if one simply read online that it can be done. It is just not as simply as finding say a list on any of these cache's, it is detailed and work. I saw your list a few moments ago and if I didn't know anything about "caches", it would be more frustrating than not to even think I could find "ALL" of my articles in any of them, and not know where to start or what to do. I am very proud of your work and the thought of informing.
The purpose of this article, however, was updated to not discredit YOUR statements, (which would be more like, establishing the lack of information provided even more), as much as, to help provide PROOF of showing that MOST lost articles ARE NOT registered as to in a majority and ALL THROUGHOUT NOVEMBER. IF you can find me/us even one on any of those caches during that month, that would be extremely helpful.
Thus far, I have not found any during that month, anywhere. That DOES NOT mean, some cannot be found. The most that I am looking for and that is MOST important to any member here, is not finding just "any" article, but finding any that WERE NOT SAVED by the author.
That is the TRICKEST feat of all. It is null and void, just "finding" articles, but never the less, it is a great thing for you to have done to pass word as possible viable ways of researching to find work.
This article is also about informing everyone that they can find any article they have lost that may have fallen into the hands of a plagiarizer, such as I experienced. If a writer's writing company folds, their work becomes null and void as to when it was posted on that site since it is pulled from google. IF a another writer gets a hold of a pulled article and reprints it online as their own, it CAN APPEAR as if they are the original writer. IF that happens to any writer that needs to file a case in that type of situation and they need to contact Google, The WAYBACK MACHINE, more than the other caches, as you too have stated, since they keep information for less time, is a better bet. Ironically, that says a lot in itself. IF the Wayback holds information longer and searching for lost articles on Wayback cannot be found, than the other caches are far less beneficial to the process of searching.
The problem is that none of us, who offer these alternatives want to make for high hopes to any writer already devastated about irretrievable articles because they do not have a hard copy that any of the caches will be a viable place for them to FIND ALL of their articles, only to find that they cannot and if at all, only a few. It is the words, you can FIND ALL, that we must be careful to state. You understand.
I am hopeful that of the 38 that you have personally taken time out to either look for or found are articles not saved by any of those authors. That would be most heartwarming, even so, heartwarming is it that would exert efforts of being a trooper to do so and also pass any of the information in regards to finding lost articles, that you have passed along. Thanks again Shelpeare for all, including your commenting.
Now of course, I cannot imagine anyone would think that myself especially should be expected to look for any articles, more or less 10,000 of them. And even if there was a staff as grand as the size of those in a corporation, what would be the sense of the detail it takes to find 10,000 with no known names... when the majority of them lost have been saved by writers that merely can upload them again if they choice. I am hopeful, there will be no suggestions that EC (Niks alone) or the foolish statement that I, should be responsible to do so. Even more, imagine if how much more would be lost in moving the site forward and removing any other glitches caused by the initial damage. Nothing would get done, whatever that is that the administrator needs already to do daily, that has nothing to do with me.
I just submitted to you via PM about 14 or 15 links of lost EC articles from different parts of November 2012. One is yours as well - an October 31st article you wrote.
I understand what you are saying although in my article I stated that the actual method was in the link at the bottom of my article.
the link sends viewers to a copy of your article here on Triond, with not much more detail than here or needed for a new cat to the management of researching on those sites. It was not a link say, to the directions of how to use any of them by the cache companies. Let's now concentrate on other's finding their articles from your suggestions and call it a day. I'm one for moving forward for I have too much to do to ride the past, unless it has a great view: one of my articles lost lol :)
Hi Sharon,
I don't think it is Shelpeare's responsibility to go through so many details as to how writers should look for their articles. He shared information that worked for him and other writers.
This would allow people who did not know what options were available to have some hope. I had also mentioned Google cache as a solution for writers who had lost their work. I did not spend as much time on it as Shelpeare. I mentioned it in a comment on someone else's article.
I think he went above and beyond the call of duty to help other writers by sharing the options that are available when work is lost. Your article comes across as very negative and almost hostile towards him for sharing advice. I hope that was not your intention.
The archive should be of some help, fortunately I had saved the limited number of articles i do have on EC. I blew a gasket when I saw my articles were missing, I was very pissed off, but then I remembered I still had my articles...that was close....lol
Thank the cosmos. That's inspiring.
This is more technical information than I am able to understand but thank you for informing us on how we might recover some lost articles.
hi Sharon , thank you for trying, and giving the information.
I looked at your references, and it will be very, frustrating to try to recover from those sites. I am glad I don't have to. I write all of mines in Microsoft Word, then after, I proof read before I transfer them to Expertscolumn.
I have my copies in Word and will be re-posting them as I get time.
thanks for caring
Joe
Urgh. Happy to hear. It feels good to know someone has managed to so. You know, sometimes we get on a roll and just write non-stop, straight into the editing box. No one will ever write I will think ANYwhere ANYmore without making sure EVERY detail of their work is copied, including added citations/references if any. Who knows, maybe in part it happened because some POWER house articles are about to be posted and it will be a MOST for them to be stamped with date and time on our personal computer's less someone tries to steal them. I can dream, can't I. :) I'm glad for you Joe. Thanks for the share.
Thanks Sharon, I am going to give this a try now but it all sounds very depressing :-(
Sadly I had no luck at all, which is a massive downer. I guess I will never see my missing articles again and with no backups I am going to take a week to decide the best way forward :-(
sigh. smh. I did find 4 of my 40 (now) ON MY Computer though. I'm just chucking the rest up. I am very sorry to hear.
I have a backup of all my articles on this site, can I republish the lost ones with same name. In fact I have just done one of them but would you please provide me the date since the articles are missing. And can I title them same as before? Thanks.
same title is fine. I don't understand about the date. IF you are asking can the date be supplied as to when it was original published, the is no one to do that. Please, however write at the button of the article, "republished from 2012" Thanks Sunni51. Good luck