Freelancer.com suspending accounts of freelancers and employers
Similar to the Freelancer.com review where we have discussed about the customer service drawbacks of freelancer.com. Here we can discuss about the problem of ruthlessly suspending accounts in freelancer.com.
There have been many complaints where many freelancers and employers have got their accounts suspended purely with messages to provide the site with more proofs on the identity of the user.
Of course every one understands the necessity any website needs to attach to keep it spam free. But the timing of when the accounts are suspended seems to be the talking point here. Many established freelancers and employers have got their accounts suspended when they had enough money in their freelancer.com balance.
This is the most important factor the site needs to look upon. No one loves a site which blocks them with no access to their hard earned money. Also there has been issue with the site suspending an employer when the employer was doing a project with another freelancer. In this case it affected not just the employer but also the freelancer who had worked with him.
Freelancer.com needs to set up proper rules for the new comers and specify an account verification process for everyone. This can do the same job of keeping the site spam free. But the point here is that the site needs to do the process of account verification at the time of user registration and not when the user has loaded his money into the freelancer.com account.
With the sole aim of getting more and more freelancers to join their network freelancer.com has provided easy access to all the professionals all over the world. But as the site has a base now it is time for freelancer.com to get their user verification one of the top priorities while a new user login.
If you feel you have any experienced any issues with freelancer.com feel free to comment here. Also mention any suggestions for the freelancer.com site to improve upon.
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I have had my battles with the freelancer.com customer service as well. They may have 120 people working there 24/7 365 days a year but nothing good is coming out of there. I probably received the same answer like 10 times, always stating the obvious and not helping me at all. On top of that freelancer.com has turned into the biggest screw job ever, screwing people as good as they can.
Freelancer.com used to offer a good service but now it looks more and more like a pure money making business that's doesn't care about the freelancer. There is no user-friendliness anymore and no transparency.
I contacted freelancer.com because I had an issue with the exam payment. I got free exam coupons and thus I decided to take a few exams. Logic would say that once I get those rewards, that I can use them right away, that's at least how ANY other website does it.
But logic doesn't seem to apply at freelancer.com, instead the company aims at screwing freelancers as good as they can. Because one has the first activate one free exam coupon after the other before taking the exam. This should be explained much better but again, freelancer.com is not user-friendly and not transparent. On top of that the actual section where those coupons need to be activated is well hidden.
What should be is that either the coupons are immediately activated after they have been ordered. If that's too difficult, then at least give freelancers the choice when doing the exam, if they either want to pay or use a coupon.
But currently it only looks like freelancer.com is looking for any possible way to screw its users, plain and simple. I wouldn't care if it was 1 exam, but I took 3 and never has freelancer.com reminded me about using one of my coupons. When do they think I wanted to use them? 50 exams later?
I hear this a lot:
they're bad because they have fake accounts...
Now I hear:
they're bad because they verify the validity of account users...
Very much useful column, thank you
Freelancer.com is a fraud. Never in my life I was subjected to an unfair and Stalinism way of acting as in this site. They suspended my account with money inside without any serious reason. Never use Freelancer.com
I've been working on Freelancer for months and in the last week, they arbitrarily put on hold my funds. I asked for a 300 USD withdrawal and with no explanation they changed it for 100 USD. Then I made a new one for 450 and got it cut in half to 225. What's going on with Freelancer?. Are they still a safe way to get paid?
Hi, I'm Valerie Scott from Freelancer.com I came across your post and would be able to assist you. If you want, you may give me your username so I can help you in fixing the issue right away. I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards, Valerie
Time goes, freelncer.com do same things. Now they silently cancels my withdrawl requests. At first time support tell me, what one of my employer have issues. Now they tell what issues have two employers.
After this I going to another sites, because such things very similar to fraud. Can anyone recommend good freelancer sites with sysadmin jobs and without such tryes to steal money?
@anonymous. Hello. This is Max from Freelancer.com. If your employers have account issues, Freelancer.com will temporarily withhold withdrawal requests. Once your employers resolve their account issues, you will be able to withdraw your funds. These policies and procedures in place are meant to protect you and provide a safe environment for our users to engage one another for mutual benefit. I would like to help. Please send your username to . I will help you with your account concerns and get you to withdraw your funds. Thank you and we hope to hear from you soon.
Freelancer.com has the worse staff and "customer support", if it can be called a "customer support", the staff is VERY rude, totally unprofessional, you can open a ticked and wait untill you die for an answer or you can receive a copy-paste stupid answer. They have the WORSE customer support I EVER seen!!! Also they have A LOT of cases where they "block" users accounts which have quite a lot of money and steal all the money. Don't use freelancer.com!!!
Hi there, this is John from Freelancer.com. This is incorrect, we actually have 120 people now in our support team and we are the only company in the industry to offer 24x7x365 email, ticket and chat support.
Accounts only get temporarily limited where we need to ascertain the identity of the account holder if our fraud detection system gets tripped, and only certain features involving money transmission are limited - freelancers are free to continue working and messaging with employers. The suspensions are only temporarily and are immediately removed as soon as a few items are cleared up. I hope you understand we do this to ensure that the marketplace runs smoothly and effectively.
Here is my situation right now, my account was marked limited and I was asked for identification document, which for the first iteration, I sent without hesitation, then I was asked to sent a few more as the earlier ones seemed insufficient so I sent some more, again. Then still freelancer asked again until 4th time after I received a message to send more, I became furious as I had nothing more left to send sop I contacted the chat support and explained my scenario and asked for assistance and after 1 hour 20 minutes of useless talk I was suggested to open a ticket as the chat representatives can do nothing in this matter so I opened a ticket and after several messages, what I got from them was "Send documents no matter how much the verification center wants" or Go to Hell.
Like most other people who land up on this page my freelancer.com account was recently limited ( Needless to say just when I got a large sum of money and tried to withdraw it). I have been a dedicated user of their website for just over 5 months now and have completed about 31 projects with perfect outcome, I was lucky enough to get some decent reviews and an 5 star rating.
One fine day I log in to my account and my withdrawal requests have been cancelled, I contact support and they say my employer needs to be verified and I should ask him to do so, it was annoying, I was getting paid to do the project not to get employers verified but anyways I contacted the employer and told her what freelancer support had told me. She being a kind lady immediately contacted support and verified her phone as they asked. Hoping to see the matter resolved I got back to work. I log in next day and I see the ‘YOU ARE SCREWED’ message:
‘Your Freelancer.com account has been limited for account security reasons.
Until we can verify your identity, we need to limit functionality of your account. You can continue to work and receive payments, but you won’t be able to transfer or withdraw funds.’
I logged in to their verification center and it is then that I realized that the real issue was one of the previous potentially fraudulent $15 project ‘Photoshop a document’ that I had undertaken. It turned out Freelancer.com suspected I was involved in Frauds and all my projects were under their RADAR. So when I got a 4 digit account balance, they decided to pick their bone. Not entirely a fair timing at their part I believe but OK, there were mistakes at my end too.
I provided them my scanned ID and a photographic proof that I was actually the owner of the ID, I wanted to explain it to them that ‘Photoshop a document’ was actually a project where the employer could not read the photograph of a paper and wanted me to make it less blurry so as to make it readable and that there was nothing potentially fraudulent about it but I could very well see what the title of the project suggested and I had no means to prove my point so I decided not to waste both their and my time. I assured them that I will in future not undertake such projects which would potentially put me and them in trouble.
Within a few hours I received this delightful e-mail:
‘Your identity has been successfully verified and your account is no longer limited from being able to deposit and withdraw funds.
Thank you for helping to keep Freelancer.com safe and secure.
Sincerely,
The Freelancer.com Team’
I realize that most of the horror stories posted about freelancer.com’s monopoly and unfair use of power are incompletely told where people miss out the part where they committed a mistake and jump directly to the account suspension part.
I fully agree with one suggestion that I saw posted all over the internet though that verification should be done before a payment is made and not after so that the users get a fair chance to decide whether or not they want to use freelancer.com’s services. It is unethical and fraudulent to invite people ‘Hey! come and do anything on our website. :) ’ and when they come and do ‘anything’ then teach them your T&C after you have their money.
Apart from this one major service flaw, they are a great website!
Thankyou for reading.
The website is a police state with rough "security team". One of my project has got "banned" 1 week after the completion, and the money was "returned to the client". Here's the explanation I was offered by the customer support:
"with the project ID: -----, was deleted because it was an Invalid Project.
For further information about Invalid Project, you may refer to the link given, under Employers: http: // www. freelancer.com/faq/view.php"
After a week my account was made "Limited" because it turned out that I was selected for an other project by the same employer, and they "suspected that this project is related to the Invalid project". My money's frozen now.
I highly discourage anyone to posting projects or working here
Hi, I'm Valerie Scott from Freelancer.com. I came across your concern about account limitations and frozen funds, and I'd like to know if the issue has already been resolved. If not, then I'd like to help you. If you want, you may send to me your user ID so I can help you fix the issue as soon as possible. I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards,
Valerie
Yes, Freelancer.com is not good for freelancers, I have worked competed my task I have received $25 and after that I have post bid on $250 project and completed that also but buyer was not paid for this and freelancer.com has charged fee from me.
So it is not good, not good, not good
i had the same situation before . since that, i dont accept any project until the employer show me the milestone deposited. by this way i can accept one job with the money there, and then i can click on "accept" safely.
I'd like to share my own issue on this front.
I completed a project on freelancer.com and am currently working on two more. I requested a withdrawal of $161 in June. After waiting the 15 days I found that my withdrawal time had been extended without notification. On using the online support chat (which I found is philosophically a really good feature) I was basically told - there were extra security check that needed to be done and "No, I can't tell you anything about it. Launch a ticket"
Cool so I launch a ticket. This is the trail of people I spoke to: Linel, Linel, Mike, Linel, Alex and Francis.
1) I requested the withdrawal and apparently it was extended because I allowed the amount to fall below the requested amount. Two things to consider: The reduction came as a result of me accepting a project bid. Remember now that obviously the initial milestone payment would immediately fall into my account so I had no reason to believe this was an issue. Sure enough the funds were replenished well before the withdrawal processing date. Apparently this wasn't the point.
2) I asked to speak to a supervisor about this. My first request for this was on the 16th. I actually asked directly for Shane Stewart's email address but received nothing but an assurance that this was escalated to their immediate supervisor's. I kept chasing the communication on that. Finally, on the 19th Francis advised that they were still awaiting feedback and that I'd be contacted when they did. I've left it until now figuring that my new date was the 31st so may as well wait.
3) Log on to freelancer.com today and see that all my funds are still available and my withdrawal request has disappeared. Chat to an agent on the Live Support and they say that my request was cancelled because my employer has failed to be phone verified. He advised me that they have contacted him and that I should contact him as well to expedite the process.
He also advised that if my employer is verified that I will have to wait a FURTHER 15 days. He also didn't answer my question on what happens if my employer is never verified. So my intellectual property i already being used and yet I haven't been paid for it. Why is it not required that such verification happens before freelancers spend time and man hours doing said piece of work.
My requests for Shane Stewart's email address have gone completely ignored.
I've now emailed support again. I need to email Shane about this. I'm hoping he can see reason in this deeply flawed process. I completely understand the need to comply with international laws but then make sure that all verifications are done before users engage with each other. The result of doing it any differently is the illegal use of intellectual property facilitated by a company with seriously misaligned ideas of the business world.
It would be a different story were I advised of all these potential issues before engaging with an employer but unfortunately none of this is done. Every business (regardless of the bottom line) has an obligation to comply with a set moral and ethical code.
The other thing I'd love some help with is the following: the company is an Australian company. What legal governing body can I forward this complaint to. I'm sure someone will realize this is unnacceptable. I can't forward to orgs like the FTC or IC3 or BBB. They have US jurisdiction. I need to direct my complaint to a body in AU.
Freelancer username: kyleobrien91
hi there.. I have a similar issue.. My withdrawal was cancelled because according to freelancer, they have some issues with my client that need to be resolved.. I'm really shocked because, as a new freelancer, I thought I can withdraw the amount deposited in my account whenever I want.. I think it's inhuman to deprive me with the fruits of my labor.. I deliver my work to my client properly and diligently and I'm not in anyway involved with to the issues between my client and freelancer.. I think such issues should be settled first before allowing any employer to post project in freelancer because the freelancer, who are in good faith, are the one suffering..
Freelancer does not give me any time frame when I can withdraw my money in my account.. It's really unfortunate.. Anyone with similar issue, please tell me what the best thing I can do.. Can I still withdraw my money in my account? When (I hope it would not take too long)? and How?
Hi, this is Valerie Scott from Freelancer.com. I came across your post regarding issues in withdrawing from your account, and I'd like to know if it has been resolved. If not, I may be able to assist you. You can send to me your user ID so I can help in fixing your problems right away. I hope to hear from you soon.
Kind regards, Valerie
Exactly the same thing happened to me yesterday, they kept my $2000 and told me that i can not withdraw untill my client verifies his identity. I told him
if verification process is important they could have done this for the client before posting projects and contests, not after completing and while I
transfer the fund to my local account. My client is not in my reach now as well, and all my money is blocked by them. I worked and delivered the source
codes to my client, similarly my client paid me all money and these bastards kept my money without allowing me to transfer.
This is what I call CHEATING and FRAUD. Now I am planning to get rid of this shit company and get registered with elance.com
To answer the question of the blog - no it not a good practice and it is actually ILLEGAL in the US. Just because you put something in your terms and conditions does not make it legal and Freelancer's policies are not legal.
Freelancer.com cannot freeze or suspend an account for verification as they are not a bank or clearinghouse. They are not licensed to do so. You need a license such as Paypal has to operate the way that they do. Freelancer.com is just a merchant. As a merchant you are required to do verification BEFORE payment is made, and if further verification is required you RETURN the funds during the verification process.
You can not simply by US law hold on to those funds. I suggest Freelancer's CEO gets the company's policies straight because if US users start getting aware of they can summon authorities to have them investigated then they can lose their right to do business in this country.
Freelancer.com suspending accounts with money in it is THEFT in the US. The company is not a bank or withholding facility or clearinghouse, is not licensed by the Dept of Banking and Finance and does not have the right to hold funds for "verification". Anyone that pays money into this service and has their funds withheld should notify the the authorities to have them shut down from operating in the United States. Plain as that.
Complete bullshit, i provided all the information i could and they suspended my account perminantly and stole all the money i had earned from all the projects!
DONT SIGN UP WITH FREELANCER.COM THEY ARE COMPLETE SCAM ARTISTS!
SAVE YOUR SELF THE HASSTLE AND GO WITH ELANCE.COM!
@Anonymous. We appreciate the feedback. I'd like to help you. Please send your username to and we'll help you resolve the issues around your account. Thank you and we hope to hear from you soon.
It happens alot on outsourcing site, maybe not just freelancer. Its saddening to know if the reason for suspension is at a shallow level.
It's not right to suspend users if there are things under verification especially if there are funds involved. Of course, those users also have their planned use and timing of use for those funds. Suspending those would create problems for the user.
Hi, This is a place at least where I can communicate to freelancer.com, I saw One "Emir" reading and responding on behalf of Freelancer.com. I have some specific suggestions and they call for reply from them:
1. I am a freelancer providing service. One fine day when I was in middle of some projects my account was suspended. I was not given any reason. I was shocked. A few days prior to that I had requested transfer of part of money from my account which has close to US$1000 hard earned money. The money was committed to be processed on certain dates. On the day it was to be processed, my account was suspended. So there was double shock; I lost communication with my clients for whom I was doing projects and did not get my money that was to be paid to my employees. The question is why do we do this? This shock is completely avoidable.
2. I sent them the ID and whatever they wanted without any delay. Now I am just not knowing as to what is the status of the my account and what will happen. I am a serious working person and have never tried to communicate outside the channel to cheat freelancer.com. Keeping serious working people in lurch just because there was a request to withdraw funds is grossly unfair business practice.
3. Just because Freelancer is suspending accounts and taking there own time to resolve cases without any time limits, it is pinching genuine working people also. Freelancer should quickly review the cases and if it is found that the suspended account has not caused any financial loss to freelancer, the account suspension should be revoked. This is because freelancer has allowed the individual to work and take up projects and freelancer has taken commission also on the projects.
4. Freelancer should undertake verification on opening of account and not on withdraw request. It indicates that freelancer wants people to register and earn money by doing work and keep there money with freelancers. They will raise objections only after some money has been earned into accounts so as to hold on to it. Or it could be because they know that new service providers will commit some error and they will have the opportunity to hold on to funds.
5. I am afraid to revealing my identity because of fear of backlash from freelancer.com. Apprehensions are growing as the time is elapsing and there has been no communication from them for long. If freelancer expects people to submit documents quickly to avoid delay, then they too should not take time to respond. Is this because service providers are at their mercy?? This is truly Bad.
Hope things will improve with immediate effect.
Thanks
Hi. Emir here again from Freelancer. I got to read your comment on deepakp118’s article and we appreciate the feedback.
I’d like to address your concerns.
Again, I’d like to assure that Freelancer.com will only suspend or freeze accounts to validate a user’s account or investigate the transactions made through the site. A part of those procedures requires users to submit high resolution photos of their IDs together with other documents. Once we receive the requirements and the investigation reveals no unauthorized transactions, we will immediately unsuspend the account. The money inside these suspended accounts will not go anywhere and once the account verification procedures are done, it’ll be made available to the user. These policies and procedures are in place to provide a safe environment for freelancers and employers alike.
Freelancer.com Support Teams dedicate themselves to get account issues resolved as quickly as possible. Have no doubt that we are working on getting your concerns resolved.
In regards to your concern about project fees and commissions, please be assured that the fees are taken as part of the charges for our services -- most of which are nominal. Freelancer is always transparent with our fees, listing them clearly throughout the site. For more details, please visit our Terms and Conditions, FAQ , our How Tos & Articles sections at Freelancer.com.
Also, we’ve taken into account your suggestions on improving account verification procedures.
I’d like to completely assure you that Freelancer.com aims to provide the best customer experience. We value all the feedback that we get and we don’t take it against anyone if they post negative comments. We take the time to address their concerns and help them get their issues resolved.
I’d like help you further. Please send your username to and I’ll personally escalate your concerns to our Customer Support Managers and sort out the issues around your account immediately.
We hope we’ve addressed your concerns and I hope to hear from you soon.
Mr Emir,
I won few contests on freelancer.com
project_id=6930
client paid me but freelancer.com not allowed me to withdraw the fund to my bank saying that client's details are not verified.
My question is why don't you verifiy these details before any one posting the job. once someone post and we worked on it and now you are not paying for done work. Is not it cheating.
2nd one
project_id=9519
I participated in this job after checking that client details are verified.
I feel that I will get money for this contest. I won and client paid me. I withdraw some money into my bank accout. Now freelancer.com Reversal the Prize Awarded and my account is showing negative balance.
I honestly worked on contest and need money for done work. if a client is fraud than you are responsibale for this. I will not pay you negative balance. Instead I will love to leave the freelancer.com and soon you will realize that this kind of behavior by freelancer.com will lead to close this website.
Hello. This is Max from Freelancer.com. I saw a similar post at another site and we'll post our reply here as well. . I've taken note of your feedback about our account verification procedures and be assured that Freelancer will continue to improve on it. I've looked into your case and unfortunately, the owner that created the contest used a credit card that wasn't his own. Committing credit card fraud results in immediate account closure. All payments that he made, including those made to you, were returned to the real owner of the credit card. We've refunded to you the prize fees that were deducted when you were awarded the fraudulent contests. Since you have already withdrawn the payments, this has resulted in your account's negative balance. We would like to help you with this matter and we ask you to please send an e-mail to . Thank you and we hope to hear from you soon.